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A me ha colpito molto più di quello Aristarco: la bravura di Lucy nelle scene drammatiche, e il fatto di saper interpretare un ruolo da cattiva con gran classe e stile. Spero ritorni nella prossima stagione.
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Xena ha scritto:
A me ha colpito molto più di quello Aristarco: la bravura di Lucy nelle scene drammatiche, e il fatto di saper interpretare un ruolo da cattiva con gran classe e stile. Spero ritorni nella prossima stagione.


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xena81 ha scritto:
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E' a discrezione degli sceneggiatori ovviamente.

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tanto Lucretia si salva!
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uffa non dite nulla !!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes
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Review: Spartacus: Blood and Sand – s01e13 – Kill Them All

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Non per fare polemica.....................ma io non sono laureata in lingue e leggere km di roba scritta in inglese in un forum italiano mi scoccia.Non si potrebbe avere un sunto per favore?
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dai che oggi visiono la puntata !!1 grazie per il link a megavideo...........scaricata iocero
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finalmente l'ho vista anch'io e posso dire WOW!
bellissima.
ammetto di essermi sbagliata (ma ormai lo dico da un po') avevo preso questo spartacus sottogamba e invece ora che e' finita la prima stagione posso dire che e' la miglior serie tv dell'annata 09-10. nuova e ben fatta.
ottimo il finale, tornato a livelli di violenza altissimi ma almeno questa volta sono motivati e non puramente grafici come nelle prime puntate. fantastico crixus che colpisce lucretia proprio al ventre per uccidere anche il bambino (vi diro', mi aspettavo che tentasse di ucciderla ma non cosi'. e' stato proprio un gesto di disprezzo verso lei e i suoi sogni e forse, nonstante tutto il sangue versato in puntata, e' proprio questa scena "pulita" la piu' violenta di tutte. applausi convinti).

se devo trovare degli appunti da fare direi che spartacus, nonostante tutto, mi sta ancora antipatico. questo suo voler fare il professorino che fa la lezioncina dopo aver ucciso batiatus mi ha un po' infastidito. anche per lucretia mi aspettavo qualcosa di diverso. e' stata ritratta come manipolatrice abbastanza intelligente quindi immaginavo prevedesse il voltafaccia di ilitia, soprattutto dopo la frase e il bacio che sapevano tanto di addio. lucretia che magari tenta di fermare i piani di ilitia ma poi resta indietro per stare accanto al marito l'avrei vista meglio della lucretia che semplicemente si fa vegrare dalla paris hilton de roma. cmq vabbe', questa e' una piccolezza.
altro appunto puramente visivo. ;'effetto di transizione tra una scena e l'altra con lo schermo che si riempie di sangue non ci sta proprio. non ha senso e non e' nemmeno bello da vedere. (cosi' come il sangue che si vede sotto la porta del ludus... si son fatti prendere un po' la mano i computergrafici e li' proprio non ci stava...)

ottima, invece, ilitia (bella cattiva come piace a me) che sa cogliere l'attimo per ribaltare nuovamente la situazione di potere tra lei e lucretia. ma quant'e' bello questo continuo scambio di ruoli tra loro due?
tra l'altro... credo lucretia sopravvivera'. magari sfigurata, mutilata, quel che volete, ma sopravvivera'.
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Spartacus: There Is Always A Choice

Questo articolo riassume e commenta l'ultimo episodio di Spartacus: Kill Them All:
http://lucylawlessitalianfansite.webs.com/articoli.htm#565731920

Oh my sweet gherkin, y'all, this was a fantastic finale. I'm not even gonna waste your time with a bunch of upfront ZOMGs, because I can't wait another hot second to talk about what happened. Prepare yourselves, this was an intense and intensely satisfying finale.

All of Capua's wealthiest have arrived for a big party at the ludus. There are banners everywhere, the slavegirls are in their best white dresses and gold wreaths, and the gladiators are all lined up cliffside. Up in the balcony, Ke$ha reads a letter from an absent Glaber stating that Batiatus will become the new town aedile. Everyone oohs and ahhs over this, including a new dude who can't wait to have brunch with Batty to discuss it. "Sure," says a beaming Batty, "but first! A fight to the death between Spartacus and Crixus!" Wait, what?!

Flashback!

Two days earlier, we find Spartacus and the Wonder Twins working on their fitness and, I guess more importantly, their plan of escape. Unfortunately, no one else wants in on it unless Crixus agrees to it, too. It's a little hard to get in touch with Crixus, what with him still being locked up and Glaber's soldiers sorta running the place. Even Doctore can't make decisions without asking first. It's a pretty bad scene. Spartacus has no worries, though, and he tells the Wonder Twins that somehow he'll get Crixus out there. So just chillax, broskis.

Batty and Ashur, excitedly wandering the ludus, are interrupted by a disgruntled Doctore. He pulls Batty aside and is like, "Hey, you know those guards? They're getting kinda rough with the gladiators. The guys could use your help." Batty's all "Yeah, no, I'm so done with this place. I'm gonna give you your freedom and let you take care of it once I leave. . OENOMAUS." Doctore thinks about that for a second and suddenly bursts out, "You know, speaking of freedom. Did you kill Barca?" which totally puts Batiatus in a corner. Batty's all "Ya caught me. But only cuz he killed that family when I told him to just be a singing telegram. I didn't want to get in trouble for him going crazy. That makes sense, right? Buddy? Oh, and Ashur was there. Okay bye!"

Batty rushes off to see Lucretia Lohan on the balcony, where the two start talking about the pinata for the party. That is, if the pinata is Spartacus and the guy swinging the bat sword is Crixus. Batty gets upset, thinking Lucretia Lohan wants Crixus to be the Champion again. Lucretia Lohan's like, "Bishplz, I'm so done with that guy. Let's make sure Sparty wins and we can keep using him for the attention." Batty thinks that's a great plan and talks to Sparty about it. Sparty agrees to it but thinks that hey maybe Crixus should be let out of his cage so he can work out and die like a real gladiator and totally not because it would make it would make it easier to recruit him for the upheaval. Promise. Batty likes the way he thinks and says he'll let him out first thing in the morning. This makes Sparty happy and he heads to his room to make Maru videos with Mira, because he's totally doing that now.

The next morning, Doctore fetches Crixus and finds him still moping over Useless. Crixus swears he'll win against Spartacus, become Champion, buy his freedom, and find his girlfriend. Doctore tells him not to worry about that last bit because he's about to take over the ludus and when he does he'll totally set you free and help you find her. Now let's get to gym class!

Crixus is completely against Sparty's plan to escape. He'd rather buy his freedom than risk being hunted down. Spartacus tells him that they could find Useless McGee together, which is really touching but Crixus still won't do it. He tells Spartacus that in another life they could've been brothers but this is the way things are. Oh and if I die tomorrow, promise to find Useless Handmaiden for me. Spartacus agrees but only if Crixus promises to kill Batiatus for him one day? Crixus is like, uh, yeah, okay? Cuz I can totally keep that crazy promise to a dead guy who will never know the difference? Let's shake forearms and go eat.

Lucretia Lohan, ever being the delightfully evil one, is ordering Ke$ha around and asking her if she's invited everyone. Ke$ha's like "yes, your Majesty, every last one of them." Then Lucretia Lohan tells her she's going to give a speech about Batiatus as though it's from Glaber himself. Ke$ha says she'll write something but Lucretia Lohan tells her she already wrote it for her. This offends Kesha and she's like "How much longer do I have to be so contrived controlled?". Her record label Lucretia Lohan's like, "Stop being a baby. Can't we just be friends again?" Ke$ha's like "If only I could turn back the hands of time."

The day of the party, Batty and Lucretia Lohan talk about how great it'll be to have their baby and it'll be so nice to see Crixus killed. Lucretia Lohan just wants it over with already and Batiatus tells her he's sent Ashur off to poison Crixus. Oh, it's not enough to kill him. Just enough to make him sluggish when he fights Spartacus.

Lucretia Lohan claims she's okay with this but she makes one last effort to win Crixus back. She brings the poison juice to his cell and tells him about the baby. She asks if he still wants her, but he only wants Useless Handmaiden. Brokenhearted, Lucretia Lohan leaves him with his poison juice and tells him that she didn't want it to end this way. Crixus is like, "End what way? What way?!" as he gulps the poison.

It's pretty slow moving stuff, that poison, because suddenly we're right in the middle of Spartacus and Crixus' big sword fight and Crixus is just now showing signs of slowing down. Up in the balcony, Mira keeps trying to slip away from Lucretia Lohan. She's all, "Hey, would anyone like more wine? I should totally go get more wine." Lucretia Lohan's like, "Nonsense, send someone else. You're my new favorite, stay right here with me." Mira shakes her head at Spartacus. Mira's apparently a big part of the escape plan and soon enough we see why. Once everyone gets too into the big fight to notice, Mira heads down to the wine cellar where Crixus and Useless used to meet. It's the only place that directly connects the villa to the ludus, so Mira kills the guard standing at the gate. She heads up to the ludus grounds and waves at Spartacus the bloody all clear signal.

Seeing Mira, Spartacus tries to figure out a way to stop fighting Crixus. Knowing he needs Crixus alive, Spartacus tells him about the poison that Batty and Lucretia Lohan gave him and that they want him to die. Crixus, who's gotten sweaty and disoriented, still doesn't buy into it and smacks one of Sparty's swords away. Over by the cliff, the Wonder Twins keep eyeballing the sword and I'm like, NO, DO NOT, LEAVE IT ALONE. Spartacus gets close to Crixus' ear and whispers "Join me, brother" while I keep yelling at the Wonder Twins to STOP LOOKING AT THAT SWORD. Crixus gives Spartacus a sort of wide-eyed acknowledgment that he's made his choice and spins off towards the balcony. He readies his shield and it's their Theokoles fight all over again. Spartacus rushes up and leaps from the shield towards the terrified crowd, thrusting his sword at Batiatus!

Batty pulls his new brunchmate in front of him and the sword goes right into his head! As Spartacus is about to actually get Batiatus on the second stab, Doctore flicks his whip up and stops him. Crixus cuts the whip, yelling "KILL THEM ALL!" as the gladiators cry out and attack the Roman soldiers! Doctore tries to make sense of it all and Crixus tells him about Sura's murder and how Spartacus has shined a light on everything. Realizing just how terrible this place really is, Doctore throws a sword at a Roman soldier and tells Crixus to go do what he's got to do.

As the gladiators kill the last of the guards on the ludus grounds, the Wonder Twins pause to celebrate. It's a moment too soon as one guard is left. The goofy brother shoves the other out of the way and kills the guard. He's still too slow, as the guard manages to stab him in the chest. As he lays there dying, the weak twin looks up and tells his brother that he got to save him this time. I wipe a tear away as I realize how wrong I was in thinking maybe, just maybe, he'd be the one to survive.

In the villa, everyone's in a state of panic as Lucretia Lohan tells Ke$ha to go find the rest of her guards. She's like "Oh yeah, I'm so on that" but instead slips off to the door and tells the guard to seal everyone inside. The door closes behind her as she gives one last evil grin to one of her old friends. It's all very Inglourious Basterds as people are slaughtered while fighting to get through the door that's locked from the outside.

Doctore finds Ashur in the locker room and the two get in a big argument over honor and Ashur's awful behavior. Doctore throws Ashur a sword and the two start fighting but Ashur hasn't been a gladiator in who knows how long. He whines about being mocked and treated unfairly by everyone. You almost feel bad for the guy until you remember that he's the reason Barca's dead, and Doctore knows this. Doctore tosses him to the ground and Ashur holds a bit of sand in his hands. There's so many Lion King vibes hitting as Ashur plays the wounded puppy card. He tells Doctore to end his life like a true gladiator. As Doctore is about to kill him with his sword, Scar tosses embers in Simba's face Ashur stabs a small steel rod in Doctore's thigh. He escapes Doctore and hides under a dead wildebeest few dead rich people.

With virtually every other unarmed person dead, Crixus finds Lucretia Lohan alone and asks her where Uselessness is. She tells him to let her and Batiatus go and she'll tell him. He doesn't believe her and pushes her towards a pillar. She pleads to him about their child but he says he'd rather see it dead than raised by her before stabbing her in the womb. I am just as shocked as you are.

Varro's wife, who recently became a slave in order to finish paying Varro's debts, pulls Numerius away, telling him she knows an escape route. This is all untrue, as she just wants to kill the boy. Having spent the day hearing everyone say awful things about her husband, she finds out that Numerius had Varro killed and that Spartacus wasn't to blame. Numerius tells her that Varro deserved to die because he was "nothing." Aurelia tells him he's wrong, Varro was a father and a husband and "He was Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!" as she repeatedly stabs the kid to death! Spartacus steps in and pulls her away, telling a just-arrived Doctore to look after her.

Spartacus heads back to the main hall where Batiatus is surrounded by the remaining gladiators. Lucretia Lohan walks in and falls to the ground, seemingly bleeding to death from her wound. Spartacus gives Batiatus the same speech he was given before taking the oath of the brotherhood. He asks him how many men he'd kill to be with his wife again but he only has to fight one. Batiatus attacks Spartacus but isn't any match for him. Batty tries to intimidate him with the old "you were nothing before me!" speech. Batty's all "I gave you the means to accept your fate!" and Spartacus coldly responds "Now you are destroyed by it" before slashing Batiatus' neck. Batiatus falls to the ground and crawls to his wife before dying. There isn't a dry eye in the house. No really, everyone is drenched in blood.

Spartacus gives his big speech of justice and freedom. They'll never have to listen to their masters again, be told to kill another brother, they'll follow their own paths, or totally join together and take down Rome! They take off for the gate and the band of heroes heads off to totally just stab Caesar Glaber! Just like I'd always hoped! HOORAY!

What a frenzied bit of fantastic! I mean, wow, when they said "kill them all" they weren't kidding. Seeing Batiatus meet his end was so exhilarating! Don't get me wrong, I'm going to miss this character, he was so delightfully evil. But tell me you didn't yell "YES!" when Spartacus finally killed him. You can't! It was perfect!

But now, who lives? Lucretia Lohan may have been bleeding to death but it was left pretty vague. She might still live. It was suggested to me by fellow Tubular blogger, Bobby Hankinson, that she could come back as one of Ke$ha's slaves. Forced to a life of servitude with no hopes of bearing a child or being married again because she's too old. I think it'd be an interesting dynamic, I'd like to see where that could go. I just love her character, I want to see more from her. She's just too diabolical and wicked to be done with.

I was surprised when it was revealed that Doctore was Oenomaus. I've been wondering when Oenomaus was going to show up on this show, knowing he was, historically, one of the slaves who rebelled against Batiatus. Finally finding out that it was Doctore all along had to be one of the most exciting parts of the finale. Well, okay, as far as parts of the show that didn't involve swords and bloodshed.

Clicking on that Oenomaus link might also reveal what we might see next season, with the big taking down of Glaber. I sincerely hope so. They didn't get closure on that story this season, which makes sense since historically it didn't happen until the war started. And I can't wait for all that to go down.

While we patiently wait for the rightfully postponed second season, there's potentially going to be a prequel miniseries. Whether or not that's necessary is for you to decide. Personally, I welcome it, but in the hopes that it's not just about Spartacus. I'd like to see each part of the miniseries focus on a different character in the show, leading up to the moment we first saw them this season. Because, let's face it, Spartacus isn't always the most exciting character on the show. And tell me you wouldn't like the see the epic battle between Doctore and Theokoles. Come on, you know that would blow your mind.

I have to say, Spartacus has been a pleasant surprise. I was excited going into episode one, knowing this was going to be an extremely fun show. But I had no idea it was going to be this clever and engaging. I know I had my thoughts on the writing early on, but it really picked up and became one of my favorite current TV shows. I'm not usually one for action films or series, but Spartacus deals it out in a way that's just so bloody satisfying to watch. I think I cheered more than the arena crowd did. Not to mention that the characters are so rich and interesting, and how much I've loved all their twists and turns. And every death was either devastating (Varro, Barca) or vindication for someone else's death (the guy that killed Sura). Spartacus is just. So. Good.

I'm not going to lie, though. Aside from the stellar action and intriguing characters, there are ridiculous aspects I'll miss while the show's on hiatus. The biggest being the slow motion, punch-to-the-face sideways bloody spit-take. That and every time Spartacus yells "DAAAAH" like a Raving Rabbid. Swap his sword for a plunger and give him a pair of floppy ears, he could totally be in a Rayman game. Aw, I tease because I love.

We may have to say goodbye to Spartacus for an extended period of time, but I have a feeling it'll be well worth the wait. In the meantime, I'm definitely jumping in my way back machine to watch it all over again.

http://blogs.chron.com/tubular/archives/2010/04/spartacus_there.html
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alla faccia delle critiche barbara ahhhhhhhh
ci rinuncio........è un papiro ehhhh ma te lo dico con simpatia ehhhh Laughing
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ottima, invece, ilitia (bella cattiva come piace a me) che sa cogliere l'attimo per ribaltare nuovamente la situazione di potere tra lei e lucretia. ma quant'e' bello questo continuo scambio di ruoli tra loro due?
Piace molto anche a me il suo personaggio clapclap
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